This was an interesting device to repair, but it’s a good example of why you have to expect the unexpected when working with older equipment. Never assume that what you’re going to find is the same as what you’d find in a new device.
For the most part, the device was functional but needed all the small capacitors replaced. I went one step further and replaced all of the capacitors, because why not? You’re in there, just do it. Capacitors are cheap and will extend the life of the device. Resistors were checked, most are within or close-enough to tolerance that I didn’t worry about it. The biggest issue was the speaker.
Small value parts probably could have been left in place, but I’ve seen some of the styles in there short out. Again, they’re cheap, replace them.
Diagnosing the EICO 150
Initially, I looked at the output transformer because the color-codes on the wires were wrong. While the original kit builder installed it correctly, it still took a hot minute to figure out what was going on. I took the opportunity to extend the wires on the transformer to reduce stresses on components, and re-installed it according to impedances.
The transformer was fine, so checking the speaker was next. DC resistance was really low, and impedance was also low enough that it was mostly zero. Speaker was shorted. Why? Not sure, perhaps age did something, or maybe as Mr. Eric HABETS from my LinkedIn crowd suggested - someone used it as an external speaker and blew it out. The world will never know.
What I do know here is that there’s still some issues within the output side of the unit. Vc should be zero, or close to it - but it’s not. There’s also the noise in the unit. Either a resistor is bad, or a transistor is breaking down under load. I have new transistors for the unit, so I will probably open a new project with this device and replace the remaining passives and clean up some of the messy wiring on the bottom.
This was a fun, interesting repair. I’m hoping perhaps I can find some transistor output transformers, or a complete unit at Dayton for comparison checks. Stay tuned, there will be more with this device later.
After going through this unit, replacing the capacitors and wandering around the incorrectly built speakers, we arrive at the actual defective portion of the unit: the speaker.
Obviously, I can’t just order a new one from EICO, that company having been dissolved many years ago. As this appeared to be a regular 4” square speaker, I found one that looked to fit. In this case, the Philmore TS45, a 4” 5W mylar cone unit was purchased.
It went in without issue, and fits the original mounts.
Of course, even this cheap speaker outstrips the capabilities of the tracer, but it is what it is. You can see into the unit from the front, which is kind of cool.
I had some suggestions to backlight the device. I’m thinking no.
The speaker works well. Since this is an aural device, I have a couple of videos of the device working coming up in the wrapup post. Stay tuned!
The small value capacitors in the EICO 150 need to be replaced as well. Yes, this should have been before the testing post, but…this little wereboar hasn’t had enough coffee yet, I mean I meant to do that…totally meant to do it this way!
There are three small value capacitors in this unit. Two teal-colored 0.22μF, and one gray 0.01μF. The teal parts are interstage and blocking for the meter, the 0.01 is input blocking for the RF side of the unit. While these parts seem ok, I’ve had other EICO devices where similar parts were a dead short - so they go.
Here’s the before shot:
And the after shot:
For the input blocking part, I used a film 0.01μF at 400V, same value as the original. The other parts are WIMA 0.22μF at 250V parts, similar ratings to what was there.
The one on the far left is the meter input block. It has a 10k in front of it, but I think that is probably going to have to be changed - you really need to drive this thing loud to get any noticeable deflection on the meter, and the meter is just a visual indicator, not a measurement. A mechanical eye tube, so to speak.
That’s all for the internals, next is the speaker since it’s shorted. Stay tuned!
As I have a decent capacitance meter with ESR capabilities, I decided to see exactly how bad the removed parts are. For the test, I’m using a FNIRSI LC1020 that I’ve shown to be more than accurate enough for hobby purposes, and you can read my analysis at this link.
I tested the parts in no particular order save from smallest to largest. These are all going in the junk bin, so there’s no need to mark them as to what they are - I can always retest if need be, but these won’t be used again except as other test parts.
For the following chart, the first column is marked value. The next two columns are values read at a particular frequency, in μF. The last two columns are ESR at a particular frequency, in Ω.
The smaller ones have fairly high ESR at low frequencies, with that decreasing as F increases. That’s expected - they’re still shot, but low value parts generally have higher ESR. Larger values, like the filters, were fine - but old. They got replaced as a matter of course.
For the smaller values, these were generally good save for the fact that I’ve seen those little teal parts short. They were replaced with good quality WIMA capacitors, or in the case of the 0.01μF, a new axial film.
A note on the 0.01μF part - the meter refused to stabilize when reading ESR on this one. I assume it’s probably going bad. Since it’s the input blocking capacitor for the RF side, it’s probably for the best that it was replaced.
There’s still some work to do as the capacitors actually need to be replaced (yeah that should have been first!) and then the speaker install and test. Stay tuned!
In the last part, I noticed that the output transformer appeared to be installed incorrectly in the tracer. While the color codes were indeed wrong, the kit builder did install it correctly. This was verified with an impedance check revealing about 136Ω on the primary, and about 5Ω on the secondary. That was measured at 1KHz, and is fine for a transistor output circuit. It was reinstalled in the correct direction.
Moving forward…the only thing left is the speaker. And yes, it’s bad. This should measure 8Ω approximately in both DC resistance and AC impedance. You can clearly see it doesn’t - 0.3Ω is not a good speaker, and I’m surprised there was enough voice coil for it to even work.
I don’t have an 8Ω speaker (one is on order) so I grabbed a small 60Ω unit from a stash of Olson parts and measured it. You can clearly see it reads 60Ω both AC and DC.
Two of these in series would be fine for testing, but I waited until I could get a small speaker for testing. I picked up one at Micro Center and the volume level increase is quite noticeable. It’s too small for the unit, so I ordered a generic 4” unit from an online vendor.
Why did it go bad? The unit doesn’t have any noticeable moisture damage, so that’s probably out. It was mentioned that someone could have used the test speaker function and overpowered it - that seems most likely. It’s only a 400mW unit, so anything modern would blow it apart.
I should have a replacement for this device within a few days. Stay tuned!
I’ve been slowly going through this device, checking parts because the output seems very low and distorted. I can overdrive one of the interstage transistors with not much input, there’s something wrong.
Here’s what I’ve come up with:
1. Leaking coupling capacitor. Unlikely, in my opinion, because the voltages here are pretty low.
2. A resistor or other part has simply gone bad. Possible, but I checked resistors and while some are out of tolerance, none are what I would consider terrible for a carbon composition resistor.
3. There’s a wiring error present.
Let’s focus on #3. After going through the unit, verifying what I could, I started checking bias on transistors. The bias on the final output should be 0V at the collector.
Here’s a schematic of that final output, Q4, and the output transformer that couples it to the speaker:
I have -1.577 noted on the collector. That’s not right, it should be 0, or very close to it as there’s no DC resistance on the input side of the transformer.
Now…note that there are two sections. One is identified by a Red/Black to ground, the other, Red/Yellow to ground. The input sides are also differently colored, but they don’t really call attention to that in person. We’ll get to that later.
You can probably guess what happened, and there was something in the back of my head going “The output isn’t right, but I don’t know why. Check that closely.”
The original builder connected the 16Ω speaker output side to the transistor. Not only was it trying to drive a 0.7Ω load into a 16Ω speaker, the output transistor was trying to drive into the wrong impedance. I’m really surprised it even worked, and it may explain why the output was driving excessive voltage into the transformer. Fortunately, the transformer seems to be good…I hope. There is about 15MΩ of leakage across the windings, but that could just be normal for this guy.
While I haven’t changed the order of the wiring yet (probably going to require some wire stretching,) I imagine this will probably help the output levels substantially.
Why did they do this? Well…
1: They didn’t bother measuring and didn’t pay attention to the colors on the Yellow/XXX (and to be fair it’s very difficult to differentiate in person, the camera reveals more color than the naked eye does,)
2: They wanted to use the higher impedance input side as an output for high impedance headphones.
I’d guess #1. Well, yes…but no.
I measured the connections with a meter. Yellow/Black and Red/Black are connected! The transformer was made wrong. The person that wired it wired it properly based on the colors. It worked (poorly) so they just assumed it is what it is and moved on! I wonder if that had anything to do with the problematic transistor repairs early in it’s life?
Maybe not?
The transformer, while wired wrong, was probably installed correctly. It’s been so long since I’ve worked with this kind of device that I don’t have any reference these days. The primary should be low ohms, and the secondary should be quite low.
When I measure the 8 ohm speaker, it’s shorted. That’s probably the issue. I just need to get hold of an 8 ohm speaker, and rat shack isn’t there for me anymore…
I made the changes to the circuit and it’s worse. But the speaker is certainly a problem. More troubleshooting to come.
There’s not much to say here other than this thing is a mess. The person doing the rework was persistent. Not good, but persistent.
I wondered why all of this was done, but then found a piece of the original wire buried under some crap. It’s very thinly insulated, almost a couple of woven strands of thread and just disintegrates. If that’s what this was wired with, it probably lost most of it’s insulation. Still no excuse for the way it was done.
I’m going to present some pictures here. Some may have a blurb, others may just be before/after sets. There’s probably going to be a few more of this type of post since everything needs redone…
Rework pictures
Even some of the original parts, like the big 500Ω resistor, were cut and resoldered. Barely. I’m going to simply remove everything in the power supply and rebuild it as a unit.
The Hall of Shame
So. Many. J. Hooks.
I’m surprised this worked. It’s more oxide than metal.
This electric spider was hiding in the power supply.
If you want to mail order a Dayton Hamvention ticket, now is the time! You have until May 1st, after which tickets will be held will-call at the gate. This is for domestic orders, international orders are being held will-call right now.
Mail order ticket sales have ended. All sales are now will-call.
This device has a lot of little capacitors all over the place. Interstage, coupling, bypass, etc. There’s even a multi-section filter array underneath. Most of the small ones were bad, as in >90Ω ESR bad.
Replacing the capacitors in the EICO 150
Here’s what we’re working with. This is a “Type 1” assembly, and has a mix of topside and bottom chassis parts:
I decided to go with all good stuff here. Small capacitors are Wurth, larger ones are Vishay or IC. As this is a single sided board, it was easy enough to heat the joint, pull the part, and then clean up the pad with some wick. New capacitors were bent as to provide leads to each pad, or folded over as needed. Parts on the bottom were simply patched in place of the previous part.
The ones that were really bad were all of the little 1μF 15V parts. Every one of these was well past useful with ESR measurement. Some of the larger ones were tired, but ok, with the filters being acceptable - although appearing to have been replaced at some point in their life already.
Every capacitor in here that’s an electrolytic has been replaced. I did a quick check on those teal blue ones, as I’ve found those to be shorted in other EICO devices. These seemed to be ok, but it would be best that those get replaced as well.
Testing the repair
The gain is certainly much higher now - 1KHz test tones are loud enough to damage your hearing. I tried a radio source, it doesn’t seem to have enough gain here - but that could be impedance matching isn’t very good, as the radio’s drive is nothing more than the low-level output of the demodulator IC itself. I need to look into this a bit more. There’s also some wiring I want to clean up in this unit, just because it’s not tacked together well. That will come with the other capacitor replacements.
It works, and is probably good enough at the moment. We’ll get come back to this one soon enough.
It’s not good enough and has some transistor biasing issues, as well as some WTF from the previous owner.
Notes
The transistors this thing uses, or can use:
2x 2N3391A. - These are generally obsolete, but can still be found easily enough.
1x 2N3906 - These are common as dirt.
1x NTE152 - This is the final output and is becoming scarce, although is still available.
If you have one of these devices, it may be wise to stock a few of the obsolete parts.
Recently, I decided to dip my hooves back into the cesspool that is YouTube. I’ve tried this before and failed, so I wasn’t terribly expectant of results. I’ve have some friends jonesing over it and wanting to see how I worked on things. There’s money in them thar vid-joes! I guess, so why not try it again?
Dealing with any of the big engines is a deal with the devil where you’re eventually going to lose. They hold all the cards, and even if your hand is good, theirs is always better because they can simply draw new cards until they have a better hand. They are the dealer, the player, and the paymaster. I already knew this, and this time was no different. I’m presenting this not as a whine, but as “don’t do the same thing over and over and expect different results.”
To start, making money on YT isn’t the easiest thing in the world. You’re bound by restrictions - content and imagery are big parts of that, but the biggest part is the subscriber base. You don’t start getting payouts until you reach at least 1000 subscribers with so many watch hours on your videos. You do this by allowing advertisers to buy time within your video, so right in the middle of an important part of the work, you get an ad for Fountain Spew, the latest dohickey that would make Ron Popeil go “ewwwww,” or Senator Bedfellow’s re-election campaign. If you’re unlucky, you get ads for things like Yaoi. Ask me how I know…And you see these ads over and over and over. You have some control over how many, but certain ads are forced on videos, including the obnoxious pre-roll ad. But…there’s no guarantees that there will be an advertiser wanting to put an ad on your type of video. Even if you’ve monetized your video and put an ad every 5 minutes (yes, I’ve seen videos like that) there are absolutely no givens that an ad will play. If your viewer has adblock installed, it doesn’t matter - no ad is played and YT knows this, so no money is made. YT knows this from the start because the pre-roll doesn’t play…why they haven’t simply implemented a “Adblock detected, you can’t watch this” system is beyond me. I guess they know that if they do this, it’s going to destroy a good portion of their userbase, but is that userbase doing anything other than watching? That’s a real dilemma and I’m not here to discuss the semantics of it.
Regardless, I established that there was probably no way I was going to make money on this kind of venture without really providing some sort of content that was polished and easily consumable, and I simply don’t have the hardware or time to capture and edit down video. What computing hardware I do posess is dedicated to particular purposes rather than general processing, and that isn’t going to change. There are channels out there doing that kind of work, two of them that I enjoy (Shang066 and radiotvphononut) are very organic and shakeycam in their presentations - but they also have been around long enough to have enjoyed the older YT that was less restrictive.
The fun begins.
All of these things that follow I understand because everything online has been weaponized, but it makes it difficult for those of us that just want to use your services. Doesn’t make it any less painful, however.
The first difficulty I had was actually trying to make an account. Used to be that you just created a gmail account, attached a YouTube account to it, and you were done. I can’t remember if those were separate systems, but now they are, even though they fall under the same general account login. This is probably something we can thank Big G’s hysterical need for social media and the entire “+” mess that they tried for. You can still easily make a gmail account, but now you need to attach other things to it, including a phone number otherwise you can’t verify that you exist, attach another email to it, and then it unceasingly insists that you give it your home address. Now that you have a gmail account, you can go to YouTube and create a channel. You have to create a channel to do anything now on YT, including just comment on a video. Channel has been created, now the fun starts.
Immediately, you’re restricted to 15 minutes or less uploads, and you can’t stream. Ok…what I do is probably more useful as a long-form video or a livestream. Livestreaming makes a little sense, you don’t have any subscribers so there’s no reason to stream, but you need at least 50 to open that up. The other restriction, you need to provide some proof that you’re real. Apparently a phone number that they already have (and was once attached to an Android account) doesn’t count towards this.
Here’s where I ran into problems on my first attempt a few years ago. At the time, the only real way to prove your identity was to photograph your ID and let them fondle it. I reluctantly did so, and was never able to get them to verify the ID and release account restrictions. After about 6 months of posting little videos and not getting anywhere with having restrictions released, I gave up. The stuff I posted gained no subscribers in that time, even though I promoted where I could, and even watch time was very small. I assumed that being uninteresting was probably 95% of the problem, with the other 5% being the logistics of actually getting YT to provide your content to people. I couldn’t gain any traction to even get feedback, and even friends didn’t subscribe because most of them just bookmark the people they want to watch because they don’t like the system.
I deleted this channel and just said “Ok, thank you. I’m sorry, it didn’t work - it’s me, not you.”
This time, I was able to actually verify that I exist and I’m an adult because they allow you to do a short selfie video. I did so, and the next day restrictions on length were lifted. Age restrictions seemed to be lifted as well, I guess there aren’t many 17 year-olds out there with white hair and a beard. Great! Still can’t stream, but let’s build some subscribers.
I posted a couple of videos - one about testing some parts with a new piece of test equipment I have, and another long-form video about working on a device. Nothing fancy, just trying out the platform. It’s not polished, and I sound like a dead pig at the bottom of the ocean, but it is what it is with the hardware I have. Better stuff can come later. Yeah, they go up, no issues, but of course the people that asked me about making videos don’t have accounts so no one subscribes. Well, my bestest friend in the whole world does, but he’s that kind of guy. So I have one. Great, let’s do some more. You’re not going to get an audience without doing something, and I wanted to do something. I figured out what hardware I had would work for this, and a way to easily trim these long-form videos down to a manageable length. Let’s roll!
My ability to use that channel suddenly starts to degrade. I can log in, but actually getting to the dashboard becomes erratic. I start getting lots of error messages until there was nothing but error messages. This seems to be a common thing with YT studio, but no one else I knew that made content was having this issue, even the complainers on that alien site didn’t have anything to say about it. I tried for a few days to make it work but things just … weren’t anymore. I couldn’t edit, view, see, or manage anything. There’s no one to offer help, so I just deleted that and started over with a new channel with a similar name.
Try, try again.
I was able to upload some stuff to this and it seemed to work. However, I had a streaming audio source playing in the background. I like to listen to something while working, and I usually have Music Lake or Space Travel Radio playing. Both of these channels are low-key, low-beat, calm music that goes well with trying to concentrate on something in front of you. I had Music Lake playing, and of course the mic picked up small bits of it.
One of the things you need to remember about anything online is it’s all a weapon. Music, or your use thereof, is a very evil and dirty thing when it comes to video. The music industry got a shock when MP3s came about and suddenly it became easy to share songs. It got another shock when artists found out they could simply bypass the record companies and publish their own music on platforms like YT and other places. To that, the entire industry is now so scared that you might play 30 seconds of a music clip inadvertently in a video and collect 0.00000000000385 cents doing so, that they will blast your channel into oblivion instead of looking at that content and going “Oh, yeah, it’s just a radio playing in the background.” They’ve always been anal about music played in public spaces, but now it’s really real - you can lose an entire body of work because you accidentally played a minute of some crap pap pop poo in your video.
Back to my situation. YT detected 3 instances of something in the background. While it claims to have identified them, it stated that the creator had generally issued a license for this to be used on YT, but this would, to wit, prevent monetization of a video if such a thing were to happen in the future. So, if I want to do this, I can’t even listen to anything. I have to sit there in silence, working on a device. This isn’t going to work for me.
Then we move on to the actual content of the videos. You’re not going to sit there and watch me solder parts and run wire for two hours. It’s not going to happen, and you don’t need to be nice about it, I understand. I wouldn’t watch this and I’m the one doing it. There’s just nothing interesting about the in-between parts, the good bits are the before and after pictures and a discussion of what happened, not watching someone take 30 minutes to figure out why the previous owner of a device did what they did, like they did it, and try to reverse it. You can’t see it up close because it’s deep inside a chassis, and that’s all there is to it. Let’s not even get into the logistics of the things I work with. Pull out the soldering gun to do a big chassis joint? That looks like a firearm and YT isn’t going to like that! The site is so scared of that sort of thing that they will happily de-monetize you if your car’s handbrake happens to look like a firearm in a video - and you’re stuck in support purgatory fighting with LLM responses to your argument.
I take that video down and put up some placeholder posts until I can figure things out.
Yesterday, I get an email from Big G. (no, I’m not saying their name.) “We can’t verify you’re an adult. Please submit more information.” My account is now limited to safe search, and other restrictions for underage individuals has been turned on. I can’t undo this, it’s a permanent thing unless I provide more information to them. This is where the services disconnect comes from. Mail and YT are operated as separate entities under a common umbrella, even though YT really does provide the back-end login services as I understand it. So the video I provided to YT doesn’t count for anything else.
Another selfie video, or preferably a credit card or your ID. They really want your ID, they just won’t say it. Remember the time when this company said don’t use your real name online? Well, too bad, now you need to provide a sample before we’ll allow you to use our service. At this point, the pain in actually getting the account setup, the crap with music clips in the background, the suddenly error’d account, and the desperate wheedling from G about my age is just more than I want to deal with. I can’t even keep the account open without restrictions, so I close it. wereboar-projects is deleted, and I’m not going to recover it. There are only so many hoops this trained boar will jump through before I get tired and go home.
What now?
There are other video platforms, but can you name them? One of them, a site called Rumble, is someplace you may have heard of. Maybe. It’s kind of a odd place. Not what I’d call conspiracy laden, but it certainly attracts a different crowd and it’s known as the site where you go if you can’t use YT. That’s neither bad nor good, and there is plenty of other content there, but they do the same curation and content striking as YT. My videos would be flagged in the same manner. There’s another one, called Brighteon. Bet you didn’t know that one existed, did you? This is where the stranger things go. Again, not bad…just not really someplace that’s going to attract attention, and not where I need to be. They are very hands off on moderation, saying they rely on you to make sure you are providing the proper licensed content. That just tells me that you’re going to get served directly instead of getting content strikes, and I’m not willing to deal with that at all. Again, neither good nor bad, it just has it’s own audience. It’s just not my place. There are even more that go farther down the rabbit hole. I’ve seen those like I’ve seen a rare coin. Maybe once or twice in my life.
I don’t know if what I’m trying to accomplish is video-compatible…but who knows, maybe it will stick. I’m going to try again with an established email address that I don’t use for anything else these days, one that’s been around long enough that there shouldn’t be any question as to the age of the owner. There’s a few videos posted, check it out: https://youtube.com/ … bottomdrawerprojects. To go along with that, I registered the domain bottomdrawerprojects.com, which will direct you to the top level of /projects.
So…stay tuned, more good junk and projects on the way. Dayton is coming up, Breezeshooters soon after, who knows what we’ll see!
Thank you for your time, and I sincerely appreciate you coming to hang out here on projects.
